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First Tracks in 2008

by Dino Corvino on January 1st, 2008

As I sit here on this New Year’s morning, lost in the love of my keyboard, I am faced with questions, and answers, and predictions, and more questions. So I thought I would jump in the pool first, and be the first idiot to take on our virtual Polar Bear Plunge of 2008. A veritable cacophony of randomness brought on by long hours of no work, loss of mental stimulation, and overall sitting still for way too long.

This year, 2008, will be the first full calendar year for Citizen Wausau. Some of the features appear to be coming out of beta, and we have tenative plans to add more things. But that is the future, let’s not dwell. It adds pressure, and we do not want that.

For me, this process has been a real blessing. At the beginning of this I did not know Andy at all. I actually had no idea who he was. I have known Marcus since youth hockey, or high school, or Key Club, or really I have no idea…so I do not count that. But Andy, somebody not even known to me, has become someone that I have become enriched by talking to everyday, sometimes way too often. Andy has revealed himself to be an infinitely talented guy, as he built this world that we call Citizen Wausau. So thank you Andy for your infinite ability, and your newfound friendship. Through Andy a lot of parts of my life that I used to consider so important are being rediscovered, so thanks.

But more importantly, we need some start of the year snark (to steal a word from Bill Coady, the father of WausauBlog). I thought I would pose some questions, and maybe you could give it some thought, and maybe you could post your own questions. Maybe, just maybe, you could start sending us posts as well.

So, I was wondering (and please lets not read too much into these questions; it’s 1 am and I am listening to the Rollins Band so who knows what is going to happen next)…

  1. 9 Mile Swamp is a county park I believe. When was it formed? How does the county go about establishing a park? What is that process? Does the DNR take part in that management of wildlife and nature?
  2. Have you met Robert Mentzer? He is a reporter/blogger/provacatuer at the Wausau Daily Herald. Have you read his blog? He is a real content creator, his blog has expanded into a really cool radio show on the community radio station I keep hearing about WNRB (though I wonder who thought it was a good idea to do that here in Wausau?). I dig Rob to no end. And he knows a thing or two about logistics.
  3. How much of the Wausau community is aware of the daily workings of the Marathon County Board, and the City Councils of the Communities they live in? That was a bad sentence, but get over it. I guess the question boils down to: how many people are civic-minded?
  4. Does the guy who owns the Wausau Woodchuck live here in the winter?
  5. What ever happened to Free Wheel’n Cyclery?
  6. Did you know that the Village of Weston has CORE VALUES? It is on the website. Wow!
  7. Is it inappropriate for a grown man to wear white socks to work?
  8. When can a guy get a good long john or jelly donut around here?
  9. Why was there no coverage of the employee at Community Development getting let go over misuse of funds? I do not know much about it, but from what I hear, it was a pretty big deal.
  10. Can someone please ask Jim O’Connell to run for mayor? Seriously, this is a man who works in a position that suffers tremendous scrutiny, and he is a real builder of bridges. Look at the amazing things that his team has done, let him run the city.
  11. What is your favorite local band? Event? Person? Street? Direction to walk in? Movie place? Pool to swim in? Hand to write with? Hairbrush to use in the morning? Type of toothbrush? VHS or Betamax? What is the coolest car in town?
  12. Do you own an iPod? Do you listen to podcasts (not like we’re asking for any real reason or thinking about something for Citizen Wausau to do)?
  13. Have you ever ridden a horse? Why would you do that?!?
  14. What is it going to take to get you to write a post here at Citizen Wausau?
  15. Are you excited about AT&T becoming a member of our cellular market?
  16. Do you garden? Do you eat what you garden? Do you can what you garden?
  17. Have you been to the Weston dog park?
  18. Do we need more water slides? Why do we not have a go kart track or a miniature golf course?
  19. Can someone please explain to me why the gas station on the corner of 29 and Camp Phillips has gambling machines in it? Is this legal? Am I telling you something you did not know yet? Who thought people needed to hang out in a convenience store more?
  20. Do you have blackjack?
  21. Can someone please tell me where THE RIVER DISTRICT shops are?  I have seen these ads on television, been to the WAE website, Main Street, they all sort of are broken and not working.  I know where the river is.  I just don’t know about any shops on the River.

So I had thought about making some predictions about things that are going to go on here in Wausau in 2008, but honestly I am sort of tired. I want to go shop on ebay, maybe watch a movie, and fall asleep. I hope you all had as good a 2007 and I did. Thanks for being supportive.

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36 Responses

  1. Andy Laub

    10:26 am on January 1st

    2. Yes, once. Hopefully again, someday. We should have another party.
    7. White socks are alright if you’re wearing jeans and a t-shirt, and those jeans are not a dark wash. Also if your shoes are a light color.
    8. Kreager’s on 3rd St?
    11. I don’t know – Festival of Arts – you – Sturgeon Eddy – South – the basement – the Weston one – right – none – the free kind – neither – Harry Colcord’s Porsche.
    12. Yes – sometimes.
    13. No, but I would if peer pressured.
    15. Yes. If not for the iPhones, think of the children!
    18. I would imagine it’s easier for pools to have a huge crowd without feeling overly congested.
    20. What?


  2. Katie

    2:52 pm on January 1st

    19. One Friday at about 4:30 PM, some random person called the station and said that ATF was raiding that very convenience store. It was kind of exciting to think about…but we called around (even calling the convenience store…) and nobody had any idea what we were talking about.


  3. Dino Corvino

    3:01 pm on January 1st

    How do the police not know that gambling is going on? I thought gambling was illegal.


  4. Jim Rosenberg

    4:26 pm on January 1st

    “Gambling is illegal at Bushwood sir, and I never slice.” [Swings club, slices ball into woods] — Judge Smails.


  5. John H Fischer

    8:16 am on January 2nd

    Okay.. I’m here…

    2. Yes I have… I think he has great things to say but should back off a little on the political stuff.

    3. I would say less than 5%… which is truly sad.

    6. Weston rocks!

    7. It better not be, I do it almost every day.

    11. Local band? Not local to hear, but local is Sesna from Alva OK. Street? Franklin St. Movie place? Cedar Creek. Hand to write with? Right (though most everything else is done left). Hairbrush? Who needs one of those? Type of toothbrush? The free one Kowalski Dentistry gives me each visit. VHS or Betamax? Get with this decade, Blu-Ray or HDDVD.. and my answer is Blue-Ray. What is the coolest car in town? I have seen a viper with Pit Snake on the plates… always liked that.

    12. No

    13. Yes (it involved impressing a girl)

    14. One of your infamous list of questions.

    18. We have enough slides, there is a go-kart track on the corner of J and 29, and I can’t wait to try the new mini-golf course at the Pizza Factory.

    21. Look for the signs, I am sure Leah and Kari could hook you up with a brochure.


  6. Marcus Nelson

    9:54 am on January 2nd

    2. Yeah, Rob’s a swell dude. I met him at the CitizenWausau Launch Party. I agree with Andy’s comment above – we should throw another party – maybe treat is as a Pot Luck sort of thing? That’d be nice :-)

    3. I’d say virtually none. We’re Midwestern types. We are prone to avoiding conflict or putting ourselves in the way of public ridicule or personal risk. That’s why we stay indoors a lot – exceptions being beer tents and 400 block events. :-)

    4. Probably not. I’m guessing he can afford some time off in the Florida Keys or something. I took my children to a game last summer – $70 or so for tickets, hot dogs, drinks and one “Woody” ball cap. Probably not going to do that very often, but we enjoyed it.

    5. Rollerblades & Skateboards became too sexy, so it closed.

    6. Two more good reasons to live in Weston, a nice and intuitive website AND core values. Come on Wausau – Let’s fix this!? Can we help in any way?

    7. No, do not wear white socks at anytime to work. It’s maximum fashion faux pax.

    8. Good doughnuts are hard to come by, but Pick n’ Save does a relatively good job at making these delectably fried treats. In any-case, it should not be a choice for those seeking out healthy alternatives. Maybe a nice bag of mixed nuts?

    9. Community Development is a pretty “under-the-radar” operation. Kind of like our own personal CIA, except without the lies, deceit & corruption. Oh wait… strike that. jk

    10. No. Jim is too nice to go into politics. I’d rather not see that.

    11. Too many questions to choose from.

    12. Yes, Yes and Yes, maybe we should have a Podcast. But would anyone listen?

    13. I was rubbed off a horse. Maybe he didn’t like me, but all the other kids were doing it.

    14. That’s a really good question. Maybe we have to raise money and hire Citizen Journalists? Kinda defeats the purpose though. Maybe if some local bloggers would like to contribute feeds from their own sites? We could aggregate them into our own posts, that would work. I think it goes back to that Midwestern thing I was talking about earlier – some people are just afraid to take risk, and that’s okay. But somebody should, or else nobody will ever know wether the mushroom is poisonous or not.

    15. Yes, I think AT&T is a good thing. It’s about time we had some national competition here. Hopefully Cable and Internet will be next :-)

    16. I canned some sweet peppers this year. It was my first time, and I think they are a bit too sweet, but I love growing tomatoes, bell peppers, hot peppers, rosemary, thyme and mint. Next year I’m going to go for Cilantro!

    17. Not yet.

    21. There is a plotted out area considered the “River District” on the website. It’s a good idea to brand an area really, it’s just not entirely well executed. The WAE website has no real pictures, media or engaging graphics. In fact, try to google WAE. Where is it? Half-baked at best.

    [In full disclosure - I consulted with WAE and offered to assist, but heard they had a board member with an axe to grind. So much for Central Wausau Progess?]


  7. Barry Liss

    10:03 am on January 2nd

    What’s up with Malarkeys – is this place going to make it or what? Seems like the locals are throwing themselves behind it 110%. Some stability would be nice…


  8. Rob Mentzer

    12:50 pm on January 2nd

    2. Thanks for the shout-outs, all, it is true that I am completely cool and awesome.

    3. I guess we will find out as the council and mayoral races start up in earnest. Far from backing off the political stuff, I am hoping to write lots about the local races. And my own aldermanic seat (9th district) has no incumbent this time, so I am especially interested to look into that one…

    7. Yes! Professionalism must be maintained at all times, Dino. Look good feel good and all that, how are you going to get any work done wearing white socks?

    12. I listen to lots and lots of podcasts. I subscribe to many that I never listen to. But I would move CW’s podcast right straight to the top of the queue, that’s what I would do.

    13. I am frightened of horses.


  9. Andy Laub

    1:06 pm on January 2nd

    Marcus:
    4. Do not ever use the words “rollerblades” and “sexy” in the same sentence again. Ever.

    Rob:
    13. I hear they’re more frightened of your awesomeness than you are of them.


  10. Dino Corvino

    1:12 pm on January 2nd

    Marcus,

    I find it hard to believe that a non profit would turn down someone offering to help them. Again, shocking.


  11. Timothy Pickett

    1:23 pm on January 2nd

    What’s up with Malarkeys – is this place going to make it or what? Seems like the locals are throwing themselves behind it 110%. Some stability would be nice…

    I recently went to this place after work with a few friends and to be honest with you, I didn’t see anything there that would draw me back. Please don’t get me wrong, it seemed to be a nice place to have a couple of 3 dollar beers, but what is “different” about this place?
    1.Concrete bar….big deal.
    2.Inclusion of wood in the decor? Again big deal.
    3.Maroon paint on the walls? Uh…okay.
    4.Big TV’s…everyone including most of the local dives have them.
    5.City Pages with a non-ending praise for this “Great Trendy New Establishment” If it is downtown, City Pages will push it ad nauseaum…examples….Evolutions in Design, III, Kelly’s, Wausau Events….etc.
    6.Trendy? What about this place is cutting edge? Nothing.
    7.No smoking inside the bar. I happen to be, at this time, a smoker that likes to have a smoke while quaffing a cold one, kind of a hassle but I understand.
    8.”Better clientele” Looked like the same yahoos that I would see anywhere else, except for the stench of patchouli from the neo-hippies, a few business persons, and on this particular night a couple that were basically having sex right in front of everyone. (not an exaggeration, a couple hands were not to be seen)
    9.A sushi restaurant right next door… as far as I know, it is a separate entity.
    10.Personable bartenders? Could be… athough I wouldn’t be able to tell you about that, he seemed to be too busy talking to his friends for 20 minutes instead of getting our drink order, but that seems to be the norm around these parts.

    All in all, I’m not saying that they totally suck wind, but as far as I am concerned, I doubt that I would consider Malarkey’s a trendy, cutting edge establishment, just more of the same with a great location.

    Enjoy.


  12. Dino Corvino

    1:29 pm on January 2nd

    Far be it from me to defend Malarky’s…but…How many bars have I been in that ARE NOT CLEAN.

    I think that a clean bar is shocker more than anything.


  13. Timothy Pickett

    1:35 pm on January 2nd

    Unfortuately, very true.


  14. Tom Neal

    3:49 pm on January 2nd

    Malarkey’s Q&A:
    Trendy? Maybe a bit, not overly.
    Cutting edge? No.
    Friendly? Seems so. (Even though they’re young guys and I’m an old coot.)
    Clean? Yes.
    Good location? I love downtown.
    Locally owned and operated? Yes.
    Good music venue? Hope so. (I’ll confess not being enthralled the other night by the reed man playing, what, soprano sax? against prerecorded backing tracks. But that’s me.)
    Promising? Yes.
    Worthy of return business? Yes.


  15. Marcus Nelson

    9:38 pm on January 2nd

    “Dino Corvino said: Marcus, I find it hard to believe that a non profit would turn down someone offering to help them. Again, shocking.”

    Yes, it is a bit hard to believe, but I’m pretty sure there is more at work than just refusing help. A prominent professional in town was recently quoted as saying, “I want nothing to do with the Nelson brothers.” A guy who has never actually pioneered anything himself – he just sits in boardrooms and smugly steers decisions toward mediocrity and reservation. It also happens that this guy is on the board of Wausau Area Events.

    You see, here in river city, this is where contentment and status quo thrive. But that doesn’t mean we at Citizen Wausau have to subscribe to the same yadda yadda. We have to be the progressive thinkers; all of us, and each day we need to make deliberate inroads to assist our city’s growth.

    With all of Wausau’s challenges with crime, growth and the political antics, maybe we should be focussing more on the opportunities that lie ahead?


  16. Jim Rosenberg

    7:57 am on January 3rd

    Just for the record, I have no idea who you’re talking about and I haven’t heard the comment, either. The reason I want to point that out is because I’m also on the board of Wausau Area Events. Those kinds of comments tend to smear all other board members and the organization itself, as long as they remain vague and undefined. Nobody can really challenge what you say if you don’t name names, say what kind of help you offered, if there was any cost involved, who refused it and in what context any of these things occurred.


  17. Tom Neal

    9:18 am on January 3rd

    It’s the information age … as in too much/not enough, true/untrue, verified/spurious, objective/subjective, selfless/agenda-driven. Community conversation really opens everything up and as a result contains a mix of all these. I doubt that there’s an intended smear attached to Marcus’ comments, and surely they’re based on something. If it’s true and the comment makes its way back to the unnamed person in question, they’ll know who they are and they’ll react or not as they see fit. Others on the WAE board can look at each other and wonder about the source if they care to, but they’ll likely just carry on as usual. To Jim’s point, however, maybe more important and telling is the possible perception of underlying organizational conflicts/problems within the WAE board. This group does a lot of excellent things, but they also no doubt have their challenges. Anyone who’s ever been on a board can understand that. I’m for the most part blissfully unaware of that group’s makeup and dynamics, and as a result I’m clueless about this particular instance. Marcus, it would be helpful to submit some particulars to clear up the vagueness about their help-refusal, without referencing quotes that for all we know might be hearsay. On the other hand, if you witnessed the quote being spoken by the quoted, then have a go at them!


  18. Dino Corvino

    10:16 am on January 3rd

    Far be it from me to stir up controversy. I was simply unsure if there were some boutique shops near the river that I did not know about yet? I thought maybe a nice lamp for me mum or sumthin like that for the holidays would be good.

    I was typing with an English accent right there, could you tell?


  19. Tom Neal

    10:37 am on January 3rd

    River? What river?


  20. Dino Corvino

    10:38 am on January 3rd

    That is what I am saying. Where are these places?


  21. Tom Neal

    11:05 am on January 3rd

    Note to Jim: Public people (and organizations) will always be affected by the haphazard broad brush of public discourse; goes with the territory. True awareness and enlightenment, grasshopper, derives from reading between the lines. There may be simmering here, the first mild whispers of an imminent general hue and cry for visionary leadership, exemplified not only by solid organizations, but also by strong, fearless, progressive individuals. In election years, public people become all that much more public (even those not in elections themselves). It’s open season on the high-profile segment. It’s time to thrive on the rich opportunities presented.

    “The moving finger writes, and having written moves on. Nor all thy piety nor all thy wit, can cancel half a line of it.” (Omar Khayyam)


  22. Jim Rosenberg

    12:37 pm on January 3rd

    Believe me, Tom, I know all about the broad brush of public discourse and I’m not being thin-skinned here. I also don’t think that Marcus intends to smear a group. At the same time, some outcomes are not determined by intentions. Asking that criticism of the type being voiced be properly directed doesn’t seem unreasonable, does it?


  23. Marcus Nelson

    12:37 pm on January 3rd

    I don’t think it’s advisable to call this person out by name; and I maybe shouldn’t have referenced that quote… doesn’t really move anything forward. Besides, there are projects in motion that this person is involved with and empowered to influence, so I have no desire to negatively impact any of this. It’s for the exact reason Tom stated above – “If it’s true and the comment makes its way back to the unnamed person in question, they’ll know who they are and they’ll react or not as they see fit. ”

    As do other CW contributors, I’m painting a picture here of how I see things, and the “smearing” Jim has noted in this case was an unintended consequence, perhaps collateral damage, I suppose, of my verbal artillery, but not necessarily a complete negative. This is my hometown as well as Jim’s and many others’, so if I or anyone else think there should be a higher standard in practice, don’t we have a right to expect and ask for it? In fact, it’s more than asking and expecting, many of us try to help make changes. No doubt my own frustration in this regard led me to write those comments.

    My own effort to become a WAE board member failed to pass the vote, not sure why. But I’ve still volunteered and stop by from time to time. I’ve consulted with WAE staff on technologies and applications available to the organization. We discussed ways to improve the presence of their Web site and how to better interact with its audience. It’s a Web site that represents my home, and I’m passionate about creating quality sites anyway. I think the current site can better represent WAE and it can be more effective in speaking to an outsider visiting or moving to our great city. Sorry to say those efforts haven’t borne fruit yet, but I haven’t given up. As for any related monetary issues, yes there was a moderate cost factor involved in the Web upgrade discussions (maybe the board discussed this and chose not to budget for such work; I don’t know what ensued). But this isn’t about money to me; I’m more interested in the site being better than me working on it. If memory serves, a family member or associate of someone on the board built the current site for $200; maybe that’s all that WAE wishes or is able to devote to their site right now. I have no idea as I’m not in these discussions?

    Seriously Jim – we’ve had discussions – you know I’m passionate about these things. You also know that our City government has no Public Relations or Marketing person who would head-up and streamline these projects. I also think that you want to fix that. I do too, but if the powers that be won’t invite more people to the party who can help, or won’t invest in valuable upgrades, then we may feel we have little choice but to rattle some cages until someone pays attention.


  24. Jim Rosenberg

    1:45 pm on January 3rd

    You make some good points about our communications effort in various areas, including local government. I know that we are in agreement about having a lot of room for improvement in various areas. I also agree with not escalating this particular discussion to the bridge-burning level, so points well taken. :-)


  25. Tom Neal

    2:02 pm on January 3rd

    And so the curtain falls on another of the days of our lives, brought to you by Tide the detergent of champions. Tune in again tomorrow when Marcus says, “Hey Dino, what’s that you’re sitting on?” to which Dino replies, “My ass, Marcus.”


  26. Marcus Nelson

    3:35 pm on January 3rd

    Jim – not trying to escalate anything. Just answering your questions. I want to play a part in the city, and at times unsure how to proceed, I am unclear as to what you meant by “bridge-burning level”
    Are you saying I am intentionally trying to do so?
    With whom would I be burning a bridge with exactly?
    Please elaborate?


  27. Dino Corvino

    3:55 pm on January 3rd

    As one who puts his foot in his mouth almost professionally, I was sort of wondering that too.

    But its not like it is going to stop me or anything.

    I think, though, that might be why I am such a beloved figure in my community.

    Though I want to remind you I posed some questions earlier, and I do not think this Rosenberg guy answered them, nor did TimothyP, or Tom Neal.

    You all just wanted to get distracted by Malarky’s, or some other tom foolery.

    When, in fact, my post came first. Hence it is so much more important.


  28. Marcus Nelson

    4:38 pm on January 3rd

    Okay, fine then mr. question asker. I’ll get my own post started.


  29. Boogenstein

    7:55 pm on January 3rd

    2. No
    3. I doubt that many know a thing about it, I sure don’t.
    7. A grown man should be able to wear whatever he wants to work and if he looks silly, he should expect to be told so and not be upset.What has appropriate got to do with it?
    8. What Andy said.
    9. Coverage? Here in Mayberry? Why spoil the happiness of the populace by exposing them to the truth? Fra easier to ignore it. You don’t want people digging around, there is no knowing what might be uncovered!
    12. I am an iPod owner who listens to podcasts, but on the PC at home, not on the iPod.
    13. Yes, because I was too young to ride a motorcycle!
    14. Time and inspiration.
    15. Yes.
    16. Yes, yes and yes.
    17. No.
    21. What River District? One can hardly see the river for the multi-level parking facilities! I would hazard a guess that it is the dream of a developer looking for a tax write-off. Still, when the mall dies there will be a nice space to put up a parking ramp for visitors to the River District.


  30. Lisa Shilts

    7:01 am on January 4th

    4. Yes, I believe Clark owns another business in Wausau, and his kids are enrolled in the DCE school district.
    6. So, are you personally keeping the “core values”? Are they goals that would be good for all of us to strive for?
    11. I like all WAE events in town . . . my husband has a hairbrush that is over 25 years old, and won’t allow me to buy him a new one. Seriously. My son does not brush his hair, which drives me crazy. He also doesn’t have a girlfriend and I have pointed out that connection t him.
    13. I don’t like any animal bigger than me.
    16. I love flower gardening, but see no reason to grow edibles. That’s what grocery stores and the farmers’ markets are for.
    17. I don’t have a dog – can I still go to the park?
    18. Let’s buy the old Gander Mtn building and fill it with indoor activities – mini golf, laser tag, batting cages. Also, the go carts are farther out, like by 29 and Q, not J.
    21. I fully support WAE and their events, but their website is very poor, and I’m not a high-tech person. I believe it is the Main Street part that promotes the River District campaign and I think it’s kinda’ pointless; the River District includes downtown and businesses along the west side of the river (Wausau Art & Engraving, bookstore, quilting shop, Katzenbarkers).


  31. Timothy Pickett

    2:37 pm on January 4th

    “Though I want to remind you I posed some questions earlier, and I do not think this Rosenberg guy answered them, nor did TimpothyP, or Tom Neal.”
    ———————————————————
    Partly because some of your questions were vague and somewhat uninteresting to me and/or others?

    BTW, definitely not a typo on my name. Dino is under the impression that even though I have smoked more than my share of ganja in the past… haven’t for quite some time… I should be chastised for a life choice… Well, I won’t get into petty flame wars here because we all have a few skeletons in the closet or some that are out.
    ——————————————————–
    “You all just wanted to get distracted by Malarky’s, or some other tom foolery.”

    Where the hell do you get off with this kind of comment? I was just sharing an opinion, pally. Not everyone is interested in the same subjects that you are everyday. Maybe some other persons have some thing to say about other topics besides what you feel relevent. Threads change midstream all of the time or is there a certain pecking order on this site?
    ——————————————————
    “When, in fact, my post came first. Hence it is so much more important.”

    No need to explain anything about this comment, but it sure may be typical of your mindset.
    ——————————————————–

    To the CW Staff….
    If you want to discuss my comments, you have my email address. If you’d care for me to leave because of comments that I have made, so be it. The name of the site happens to be Citizen Wausau… not My Kind Of People Wausau. Sure, I can be a piece of work from time to time and somewhat negative often, but if you always hear what what you want to hear, where is the openness that this site should hold in the forefront?


  32. Dino Corvino

    2:39 pm on January 4th

    That actually was a typo man. Sorry. WIll go back and fix it.

    Sorry.


  33. Dino Corvino

    2:44 pm on January 4th

    Tim,

    I am unsure as to how a clear attempt at humor gets such a reaction. No one is asking you to leave or anything of the like.

    I fixed the typo. If you look, the O and the P come right next to one another, and I have fat fingers. And make typos.

    Its nice to be called an ego maniac right here, AGAIN.


  34. danniggbie

    3:29 pm on January 4th

    Hey, I’m glad I found this site, I like the new look and all, but shouldn’t the name be Citizen-ROCK-Wausau?

    Look, you have tim and dino fighting, over typos, no less, people putting both feet in their mouths and ten comments following telling them exactly what they did wrong. God I missed this stuff. Where’s devlin and earl? Crystal? I heard xsphat is doing gay porn on the outskirts of Russia so I won’t look for anything from him.

    Anyway, keep up the good work, and I’ll see you around.

    Have a nice day.


  35. Tom Neal

    3:58 pm on January 4th

    The River District … someday I’m going to go there. So, has anyone ever been to the Flats in Cleveland? Used to be the nasty, industrial river corridor into town, place where you’d find bodies. Then they reclaimed it, cleaned it up, landscaped it, added clubs, cafes, water access, etc. Now it’s the place to be, walking distance from the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. And similar things have been done elsewhere on riverfronts that used to be industrial wastelands. River District … has a nice ring to it.


  36. Marcus Nelson

    4:11 pm on January 4th

    Good point Tom – There’s certainly some recently reclaimed land along the river. Remember Hammer Blow along the riverfront, that’s now owned by the city (I think). That could be developed along with the other parcels heading up to Bridge Street.

    Imagine the benefits of dining and possible hosing in that area? Even developing mixed use or live/work situations – very trendy thing to do these days. I’d love to see that!


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