Questions Intended to Make Your Feet Tingle and Your Hips Shake
Recently I have fought with sleep patterns. An active war, casualties, helicopters with red crosses, the whole nine yards. I am left thinking that all we have to look forward to in this world, the only thing, is a nice blanket, pillows in the proper position, and hopefully a slight breeze to keep the warm to cool contrast sharp.
This week I am going to lead with a serious question, but as per my friend Sullie, I will try to keep it light. Because apparently that is what people want. So I pander.
- What do you think of this? The Department of Homeland Security, the CIA for inside the borders, can now detain US citizens coming HOME from abroad, to inspect our electronic devices without cause or due process. Are you concerned about your loss of rights? It is funny that we would engage in a prolonged discussion about something like smoking (something trivial in my opinion), yet we have accepted this bill of goods that is giving up our rights in favor for security. Who shall watch the watchers in America? Where are your voices of dissent for this form of government interference in your life? You think that they should not tell you how to poison yourself, but what about their direct attacking of your life and putting you in a cage so they can go through your iPod®? Where is your outrage then?
- Do you go to the library? I just paid off my fine (55 bucks or so) and got my new card. I love the library. I am going to try to write blog posts from there every week. The librarians there are the smartest people on Earth and were treated badly by the county, yet they stayed and did their job. Bill Coady turned me onto the library.
- Do you like puppies or kitties?
- What would you say to Brett “The Rich Guy” Favre if given ten minutes in private with him?
- Will the Brewers make the playoffs?
- Who was your high school valedictorian?
- As a child or adult, did you read comics? If so, do you like the direction of making the comic world more tangible and realistic?
- Is it the heat or the humidity? And you folks who are in Texas can pipe down on this one.
- Have you found Plurk?
- What gets your feet a-tingling and your hips a-shaking? Cheryl feels inspired to do booty dances in the kitchen when Fergie’s London Bridge comes on. What does it for you? Anything? Or are you dead inside?
That is it, my friends. I am a man, off the sea of Greenland, in a skiff.
Cheryl Mathis said:
1. I feel that many people are still sensitive to the memory of 911, and they don’t necessarily feel uncomfortable bending over for the government. For myself? I don’t mind the intrusion. I have nothing to hide, and if it makes bureaucracy feel better to search EVERYONE rather than racially profile, then I’m really to build a little time into my schedule for them to pore over the audiobooks on my iPod and examine the pornography on my laptop.
2. I go to the library to get the audiobooks and to let Ben play with the toys. Anna’s finally old enough to be amused there, so that’s cool. I love the library, and I too had huge fines there for years. Now my conscience is clear.
3. I like both. Their youthful innocence is charming and delightful. I used to be a cat person, never without a feline companion to sleep on my feet at night, but lately, I’ve been hankering to be a dog owner. Is it terrible that I want a full grown dog, not a puppy?
4. I would bypass the opportunity in favor of something more useful, like a game of sudoku on Facebook.
5. I have no idea. I thought they were doing well earlier in the season, but lately I’ve gotten the impression that they are sucking the big one.
6. Eh. I have no idea. I did at the time, but strangely enough, that little piece of trivia means nothing to me now.
7. Nothing beyond Archie. I think it’s interesting to see how contemporary cinema can give the same story feel as a comic, but with traditional filming and a little CGI.
8. The humidity. I can’t breathe in it. I start coughing incessantly as my own alternative to the asthmatic’s wheeze.
9. Of course. I was one of the first of our little group. My name is mamacheryl.
10. Obviously, kitchen booty dances appeal to me. Also, rocking out to music in the car. When I’m with grown-ups, I confine my dancing to very subtle hip wiggles in my seat.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pm #
Mohawk Matt said:
1. I am indeed outraged at this issue. I think the government needs to stay out of our personal lives, no matter what. No phone tapping, searching, black lists for air travel (which, incidentally, there is a Matthew Gardner that isn’t allowed to fly, and every time I try to, my name of course comes up and I have to wait a half an hour for them to clear me) I don’t care if they’re ‘trying to catch the terrorists’ or whatever. I just don’t care about terrorism. Yeah, it sucks when it happens, but oh well. The more the gov’t takes away our freedoms, they will be fighting to stop a new terrorist form: Patriotic Americans who are fed up with this demockercy.
2. I used to go to the Library in Antigo all the time, but not the one here in Wausau. I don’t really have anything to do there. If I want a book, I go buy it.
3. Puppies. Hands down.
4. I’d ask him how he gets ‘Farve’ out of ‘Favre’. Then I would tell him to just shut up and go away.
5. Maybe as a wild card. Go Cubs!
6. Well, I don’t know. It wasn’t me or any of my friends, that’s for sure.
7. I’ve read comics all my life. I still do. I like the Marvel Universe, and they seem to be trying to incorporate real life into the stories. I don’t know if I like that, because comics are supposed to take you away from real life for a little while.
8. It’s the Sun.
9. WTF?
10. I don’t wiggle. I do, however, convulse.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm #
Alex Tallitsch said:
1. I’m in the middle on this one, but primarily because I hate waiting in line for anything. I see the Dino expose on seesmic and consider myself briefed on the issue. I say don’t have stupid crap on your computer and you’ll be fine. I would have to read on how in depth the process was, to gauge my level of pissed-ness. The thing is, I haven’t done so yet, and this is the second time the issue has been brought up. I guess I don’t care then is my answer. I also don’t think a whole lot should be illegal, so this is just another example of things going too far.
2. No. My Mom is a librarian.
3. Yes.
4. “Dude, remember the NFC Championship Game? What were you thinking not dumpin it off to Grant.” If he didn’t deck me, I would talk about his truck, it is big, bad, and has a Favre looking winch on the front. I don’t even like trucks.
5. Yes.
6. Can’t remember. Pretty sure it was that smart kid.
7. No.
8. Don’t care to think that hard.
9. Plurk rules. Purk ID: alextallitsch
10. What was it, it just happend too. Oh yeah, the Hair Metal thread that invaded Dino’s Plurk. Join Plurk, invade Dino. It’s awesome.
August 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pm #
Boogenstein said:
1. Go and give away all your freedom to some rich bozo called Bush. What the hell are you thinking America?
2. No
3. Puppies
4. “Learn to shave, dumbass!”
5. No
6. No such thing where I come from.
7. No
8. Humidity
9. Yes
10. Ibrahim Ferrer, Orbital, The Stranglers.
August 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm #
erik said:
2. I was just at the library today. I was happy to hear that our apartment in Baltimore is down the street from the library, just a short walk away. w00t for books I’ve paid for with tax money! May as well use the library, you’re paying for it.
3. Kittens. Way cuter, way cleaner, way less chaos.
4. I’d probably ask him about going from small town nobody to Super Bowl, as much as I could get in ten minutes anyway. I’d ignore all the drama right now and get back to the good stuff.
5. Nope. They do this every year: get everyone’s hopes up and then choke. I’m glad I’m not much of a fan because it would infuriate me to no end how they choke every time.
6. Rebecca Bushman. I think she runs the Subway in Hatley now, but don’t quote me on that one.
7. I’ve loved comic books since I was a kid. As my taste matures I want stories with more depth and characters with more flaws. I want something I can bite my teeth into while escaping, so if that’s what it means to have them be more realistic than I’m all for it.
8. Humidity.
9. Stephenie and Brett tried to get me on Plurk I made an account and one update and got bored. I’ll stick to Twitter and Facebook.
10. I’m not much of a dancer, but I really get into epic rock and roll. Stuff that makes me want to jump around like crazy is like Coheed and Cambria, Saosin and Flyleaf.
August 1st, 2008 at 9:15 pm #
timothyp said:
1. I have no problem with searches at airports at any time, it is done in many countries and has been for a long time. Rather be safe than sorry I guess.
2. I buy books instead. Lots and lots of books… when I’m done with a boxful, I take them to work and give them to anyone that wants them.
3. I don’t care to have pets of my own, but at other people’s homes, I’d go with the little kitties.
4. I’d want to ask him about the pressures of playing in Green Bay where the history is so lush with championships and success.
5. Getting the Divion Championship will be difficult but the Wild Card is still within reach and I believe that that’s where they will end up. Remember, all you have to do is make the playoffs, anything that happens in the post season is a crapshoot where any team can go to the Series.
6. That was 34 years ago but I’m almost positive that it was Mary Doorr (I dated her sister).
7. Not much for fiction however when I was a young lad, I used to read Batman and Superman. Sure wish I’d kept them.
8. Humidity!
9. No
10. When I dance in public which is seldom… the blues. Still have a habit of headbanging when I see a metal band, but I haven’t seen one of them for quite a while. At home, I do not dance.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am #
Boogenstein said:
1. this is more than just searches at airports. I come from Europe and have been acclimatized to that since I started flying. They are stealing your rights to privacy with a laughable excuse. Sadly y’all submit, thinking you are are helping the so called war on terrorism?
Don’t get me wrong, I adore this Country. What I hate is the way you are manipulated and are happy about it. Y’all need to wake up but I am not an alarm clock!
August 2nd, 2008 at 6:21 pm #
robertmentzer said:
1. Maybe I am naive, but I tend to think a lot of these sorts of practices will change with a new administration. I know plenty of people who disagree with me, but that is what I think is the best solution.
3. Definitely a cat person. But I love puppies, too.
5. CHICAGO CUBS. I agree with you people that maybe the Brewers get the wildcard.
7. I never really read comics as a youth. I want to start reading them now. I read the occasional graphic novel, but I don’t have that sort of get-every-new-issue-that-comes-out relationship with any ongoing comic, and and I think I would enjoy that.
9. Tell me what is good about it.
10. LIL WAYNE. Young Jeezy. The Hold Steady. The theme songs of certain television shows.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:01 am #
Barry Liss said:
2. I still can’t bring myself to go to the Marathon County Library - I’m trying but I can’t openly face the fact that I live in a town where people in positions of power refer (unchallenged mind you) to library patrons as customers…it’s too grim to think about…
Barry
August 5th, 2008 at 7:16 am #
Dino Corvino said:
Isn’t that punishing the wrong people? Show your support for the library. Bring about a cultural change by checking out books.
August 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am #
Barry Liss said:
Dino…I have to buy the books I read because I mark them up to annotate them…you write,
“The librarians there are the smartest people on Earth and were treated badly by the county, yet they stayed and did their job.”
…you know something grossly unfair happened yet countenance it as if it didn’t…for my part, I am going to chronicle this situation in print and submit my essays to peer-reviewed journals - maybe even write a book - about the time and place that grew so stale and nihilistic that decision-makers could refer to library patrons as customers and librarians as customer service specialists…
Barry
August 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pm #
Dino Corvino said:
I agree with you. But given that, if the theory is the library does not have ENOUGH CUSTOMERS, might we do them a favor by being said customers.
Like signing an online petition to save an Aaron Sorkin tv show, or buying extra copies of a magazine to keep it from going under.
I find the actions of those that would put the library in jeopardy, bad. I can come up with nothing other than gutteral sounds, so I will go with bad.
The library is historically the seat of culture. The pride of Rome.
I buy the books too. I mark them up, take them in the bathtub, and the whole nine. But I want the library to have my clicks or whatever statistic for the argument for their defense against the morons who would seek to harm them.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm #
Mohawk Matt said:
Hopefully libraries will be around when my kid needs to use them in 6 or 7 years. That’s my only input.
August 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pm #
robertmentzer said:
But Barry — not objecting to your overall premise that something grossly unfair happened — isn’t customers just a word for the people who come into your place and ask you for things? Nobody is actually arguing that the library should be converted into a for-profit business…
August 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pm #
Barry Liss said:
My goodly Orwells, go check out the definition of patron and you will note the sacred guardianship role (as in patron saint):
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patron
Go look up customer - you find an emptying out of substantive meaning outside of the marketplace:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/customer
Words matter - transgressions of the word have ugly and unpredictable effects.
Barry
August 5th, 2008 at 4:46 pm #
robertmentzer said:
I like the definition of patron “a master in ancient times who freed his slave but retained some rights over him,” I don’t think I have ever heard that one. But I am not totally sure whether that is relevant here.
Look, everyone would agree that words matter — the question is how much. It’s not necessary to think the use of “customer” means NOTHING in order to think that it isn’t, you know, the primary cause of the library staff downgrading.
Besides, isn’t Dino’s point that not patronizing the library is not exactly a constructive way to influence its preferred terminology?
August 5th, 2008 at 8:21 pm #
Dino Corvino said:
As this discussion has moved forward, I simply do not understand the logic of valuing the library so much that you would not use the services.
If I am reading this, you are so upset that someone would use the word customer, NOT LIBRARIANS saying it, that you would not use the services.
Librarians did not say customer, an elected official did.
You agree that libraries are significant and important places.
BUT
You will not go there any longer because of what someone who is not a librarian said.
Are you teaching the librarians a lesson? The elected official?
I simply do not understand.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:35 pm #
Barry Liss said:
Rational and enlightened words all, but here is an excerpt for the advertisement of the new position:
“The Marathon County Public Library is seeking a highly qualified individual for the position of Customer Services Lead Librarian….This position works directly with library staff to improve their customer service and responsiveness skills.”
Without this customer metaphor, what’s the rationale for this downgrading? I would hope Dino that this library isn’t the seat of our culture - at least not culture as I know it. Culture for me is synonymous with discipline, nobility, achievement and morality. Culture demands adherence to the social rules and traditions - culture is intrinsic to the enactment of manners and politeness and its greatest achievement is the lady or gentleman who follows an ethical code in hopes of creating a better world. Authentic culture can be witnessed in a love of reason, tolerance for otherness, mastery of languages, literacy, health and all of the fine arts.
The justification for the downgrade was technologically based as well…increased customer internet usage - library as technological center in which the Master’s Degree of Library Sciences becomes superfluous - the MLS was an anchor to literacy, now it’s at best irrelevant and at worst a hindrance to technological progress. I find these to be slippery and dangerously flawed assumptions - and all tied to the word.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:18 am #
Tom Neal said:
Hi Barry (and everyone),
Barry … I commiserate with you; as time and the world “advance,” so much of what we have long prized as cornerstones of our sense of civilization: gentility, formality, etiquette, sensitivity, intellect, comportment, culture, discernment, duty, inalienable rights, pride, shared ownership, stewardship, mentorship, knowledge, classicism, have eroded and declined and been abused nearly to the point of barbarism. What are we left with? The product foisted upon us by those empowered, the product handed to us by our social contacts and the product we create by our own devices. While we yearn for Utopia, we struggle with Babylon. Travel and you see it magnified on a tremendous scale. Rave on, Barry. Rail against the tide. And support your public library, a bedeviled bastion of everything we value and are losing apace.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:44 am #
Dino Corvino said:
I do not understand how not going to the library, how not supporting the employees there, coincides with their success.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:06 am #
Tom Neal said:
Yes, pal Dino, you’ve made that point. But, aside from that, sometimes outrage results in counter-intuitive or counter-productive actions. Jimi Hendrix: “I say oh baby why’d you burn your brother’s house down ?”
August 6th, 2008 at 11:38 am #
Jane Neal said:
I love the library.
I use it all the time and am there at least once a week. I simply cannot afford to buy all the books I need to use for teaching reference or the ones I read for pleasure. I always have 5-12 books checked out at any one time and I have a neverending list of ILL (Interlibrary loan for those of you who do not partake)books. When I commute, I check out audio books for my drive.
But growing up, I was the kid who thought a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon was to have my parents dump me at the library for a few hours. Bookworm? Who me?
August 6th, 2008 at 11:59 am #
Barry Liss said:
Dino when you write: “I do not understand how not going to the library, how not supporting the employees there, coincides with their success.” Do you really think that your presence there is somehow a show of support for anyone…I submit my good man that it’s a show of your ability to sweep unfairness under the rug and pretend a shoddy status quo is tolerable…
August 6th, 2008 at 2:22 pm #
Dino Corvino said:
I ask again, how are you showing anyone the importance of the library, the injustice done, by not using the library?
What I think is irrelvent. I asked a question.
August 6th, 2008 at 2:27 pm #
Barry Liss said:
I think you ask a reasonable question…with the new customer-service metaphor the place is not really a library anymore…books and literacy have been relegated to a second class status in favor of visual, technologized media and since libraries have always been repositories of books and librarians their literate keepers we have a bit of semantic slippage…it’s really more of a glorified internet cafe and that’s why it became possible to think of librarians as customer support specialists rather than highly trained literacy experts…
August 6th, 2008 at 4:38 pm #
Dino Corvino said:
So, do you feel that the people who work there now, with a new label, are less qualified to assist you or I in our search for knowledge?
Do you feel that your boycott of the building that houses the books, the people that work there, and the services provided will somehow bring about a change in the thought process of the County Board?
Or rather, would it be better to encourage people to use the library and the services within, and show the county board in stark relief how important the library is to the community?
Again though, I ask the very same question. Because I do not think you answered it.
How does not going to the library point out to the county board the importance of the library?
August 6th, 2008 at 5:25 pm #
Barry Liss said:
I did answer it…if you can paraphrase what I said I’ll respond…otherwise I’ll assume you incapable of dialogue.
August 6th, 2008 at 5:35 pm #
Dino Corvino said:
I do not need to really paraphrase anything. I am unclear as to your response. I do fancy myself capable of dialogue.
So I shall try.
“with the new customer-service metaphor the place is not really a library anymore” I understand this. The change in status imposed by a group outside of the librarians changes the nature of that building from library to something else. I understand that.
“books and literacy have been relegated to a second class status in favor of visual, technologized media and since libraries have always been repositories of books and librarians their literate keepers we have a bit of semantic slippage”…this section seems to speak for itself. The idea that there are less books, and by implication less literate people who used to be librarians and are now customer services representatives. So the nature of the building is once again changed. No longer can we look to the librarian as the literate mentor or guide on our journey for knowledge.
“it’s really more of a glorified internet cafe and that’s why it became possible to think of librarians as customer support specialists rather than highly trained literacy experts…” This again is pretty clear. The very nature of that building, and all within it have changed.
That being said, and I hope I passed the examination to prove me worthy of dialogue, I do not see how any of those point address the essential question I asked.
How does an act of boycott of the building formerly referred to as the library show those people who made the distinction of customer service or customers instead of other labels, how does said boycott change their perception?
I think it in fact does the very thing you are hoping it does not accomplish. Now Joe Lunchpail elected to county board can read the stats at the end of the year, and say…See, people do not use the libary.
After two years a declining trend is validated.
Then the very existence of the library can be in jeopardy.
Are you in fact somehow upset that people did not defend the librarians more? Did I as a founder of Citizen Wausau fail somehow to rise to the occasion of libarian defense? And as such, is your boycott not better directed at those you feel did not defend the library with enough vigor?
Is the librarian group guilty of not taking enough of a stand?
August 6th, 2008 at 5:47 pm #
Cheryl Mathis said:
I know I’m late coming to the conversation, but here’s my point of view: Even though the quaint library is pretty much a thing of the past, I’m willing to still embrace the library as a part of a flourishing community. Librarians seek a new definition, I’m sure. I wonder what they are teaching them now, probably a whole lot of technology and community development courses.
The library needs to start making a profit or face banishment from the community. So many of us are concerned about high taxes, but a portion of those taxes go to supporting public institutions. As the definition of a library changes to include providing internet and technology access to low-income citizens, their costs will inevitably increase. I doubt that the community wants to pay for that. Instead, the Friends of the Library organize for donations, provide snacks and beverages to sell, and open up the attics for book sales.
I donate many of my previously read books to this organization as a way to show my support for the library. I go there to read new authors that I’m not willing to invest in yet. I let my children play, and I use their supplies to teach my son his letters and numbers.
It’s a community place, first and foremost. Anyone who has sat in that charming room for story time knows this as they watch Hmong, Hispanic and Caucasion children and parents do the little dances and follow along with the expert storyteller. There aren’t many other places (besides Walmart) in this community where people from all income brackets and all backgrounds come to be part of a community. It’s beautiful.
Many of the old-fashioned aspects of library still remain solid. The non-fiction books in the stacks are still there and still updated. The librarians can help you find what you need if you want to use that part of the library, but they also have to serve as customer service specialists for those who just come for the internet.
I hope that some of the much-loved services of the library remain in this new era, but as more books and journals are online, I don’t see all of it staying. I suggest we embrace this new library and visit there as a way to be part of the community. It’s a lovely place, and it’s worth going there for what it is right now, even if it’s not the library of your childhood.
August 6th, 2008 at 6:30 pm #
Cheryl Mathis said:
Also, I think literacy has a place on the internet as well. Not everyone uses l33t or texting. There are often bastions of intelligence hiding among the drivel. Sometimes it’s just unpublished authors putting their craft on a blog, sometimes it’s authors who choose to publish online. I think technology can blind you from the goodness that the internet contains, but if you ignore the sometimes inane social sites and the stronghold of the idiots, you can find some real value online. The library seems the logical place to go to find information, do research, read beautiful stories.
August 6th, 2008 at 6:36 pm #
oldwoodchair said:
The pre-lude to Fahrenheit 451….I’m just sayin’…
August 6th, 2008 at 7:57 pm #
Barry Liss said:
Thank you Dino.
Let me assure you that I in no way advocate a boycott of libraries in general, or the local the library, or books or the internet. I never said anything to that effect. I said this:
“2. I still can’t bring myself to go to the Marathon County Library - I’m trying but I can’t openly face the fact that I live in a town where people in positions of power refer (unchallenged mind you) to library patrons as customers…it’s too grim to think about…”
That’s what I said.
And to answer your poignant question…yes I am disappointed that the librarians were sold out and nobody really seemed to care enough to do anything meaningful (except a few regional library directors and a handful of bloggers). I am deflated by the local public and private school librarians’ inaction…I am disgruntled by the local teachers’ unwillingness to stick their necks out…disillusioned in Peter Wasson and the Daily Herald for the editorial supporting the pseudo-reasons of the demotion….disenchanted with J Rosenberg and the other local politicians for assurances of inquiry that never materialized…jaded by UWMC, the Tech, and UW-Stevens Point - all equally without voice in the matter.
But the morning is young and thoughts and energies can be re-focused…guilt expiated, sin cleansed…we’ll see if in the end this wrong can’t be righted…
Thanks for the provocative words Dino…that helped me concentrate my ideas and plan what to do next.
Barry
August 7th, 2008 at 6:27 am #
Dino Corvino said:
I am glad I am capable of dialogue.
August 7th, 2008 at 9:09 am #
Barry Liss said:
Now we gotta work on getting you a girlfriend…
August 7th, 2008 at 9:16 am #
Tom Neal said:
Ah, ain’t that cute! Smoochy, smoochy!
August 7th, 2008 at 9:26 am #
Mohawk Matt said:
Maybe Dino should date a librarian. Just a thought, don’t get huffy.
August 7th, 2008 at 11:00 am #
Dino Corvino said:
I worship librarians like I worship red headed rock drummer women.
August 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm #
Barry Liss said:
I thought those were great posts Cheryl…but I don’t know what it would mean for a library to make a profit and I think that’s the wrong kind of language to use to describe the situation…I think it confounds the fact that what matters most in a library lies in essence outside of the marketplace…
“Whatever has a price can be replaced by something else
as its equivalent; on the other hand, whatever is above all price, and therefore admits of no equivalent, has a dignity.” vii (Emmanuel Kant)
I appreciate your take on community…but what good is a ‘community’ without authentic civil values of fairplay…and standards to turn for redress of grievances?
For example, I attended the board meeting after the demotions. I can assure you that these minutes do not accurately reflect what occurred that day…
http://www.mcpl.us/about/board/minutes/LibraryBoardMinsMarch2008.pdf
The meeting was in fact disrupted by a man in protest who read a letter written from a nearby library director condemning the demotions…the board refused to hear what the man had to say and when he wouldn’t stop reading a motion was hastily made to adjourn and the lights were turned off in the middle of his speech…is that communal?
Essentially, the minutes of this meeting are mis-recorded in an overly-sanitized form because as written they omit entirely the protest (there were others who wanted to speak too - and were not given the option)…and this calls into question the historical fidelity of the reasons for decisions made by this group and the ability of the public to intervene when perceived unfair or bad decisions are made …at a minimum this requires public scrutiny if not an official investigation…
August 9th, 2008 at 8:18 am #
Dino Corvino said:
So then Barry, what will you do next?
August 9th, 2008 at 1:21 pm #
Barry Liss said:
I’m going to write about it primarily…try to tell the story by collecting facts and chronicling them into a coherent narrative…I’ll go read the bloggers comments - reread the editorials…maybe interview some people…I’ll try to be reasonable and objective while developing a sound rhetorical criticism…
August 10th, 2008 at 4:41 pm #
Dino Corvino said:
you could write about it here, on Citizen Wausau. Start your own blog, or submit your pieces here as stand alone submissions.
August 10th, 2008 at 9:11 pm #