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City Stumbles on Third Street Plan

by John H. Fischer on February 9th, 2009

Dino and I appear to be on some kind of odd similar wavelength. Such similarity is not unusual for life long friends, but we only really casually know each other and although there is mutual respect, we really have nothing in common. Nothing except our thoughts on what we wanted to write about this week.

We weren’t in perfect sync: the 400 block was not my chosen topic. Instead, I wanted to give an outsider’s thoughts on the discussion as to the work needed on Third Street downtown.

Most of you would not consider me an outsider. However, I do not own or manage property in that area that most define as downtown. I also do not spend much of my time there. The closest I come to spending quality time downtown is the occasional weekend brunch at The Mint, catching a show at the Grand, or spending way too much time at the Courthouse (they seriously need to give me an office there). However downtown matters to me. It is a piece of the pie that is the Greater Wausau Metro Area. And all of those pieces need to work together and need to succeed together. So if one piece of this pie is missing or is in need of attention, it has a pull not only on the entire city, but the entire Metro. (For me, the City of Wausau is not the whole, it is only a part of the whole.)

In a nutshell, here is the current debate. The City has determined that Third Street from Jefferson to Grant needs work. The businesses along that three block stretch of street fear that closing that street for construction will negatively impact their ability to be profitable. Hence the discussion.

The businesses of downtown have already faced difficulty. My wife, the infamous “Mrs. Rent” who works downtown, jokes with her family back in Oklahoma that when they come to visit, it is okay if they don’t learn the streets of downtown because there are always one or two important ones closed for something, and every few months, the streets that are closed change places. Those from here just find a way. But for those new to the Wausau area or not used to urbanized downtowns, it can be a quite frustrating experience. Many of these businesses have had to do the best they could dealing with the construction when the pedestrian mall was re-opened to traffic, and most recently, when the construction of the Palladian made downtown navigation challenging for many. Many of these are niche businesses that will be the first to suffer from an economic downturn. They have somehow survived a couple of years of construction, and now when they can least afford it, one more season of closed streets in front of their storefronts is on the schedule.

On the Wausau Daily Herald forum boards and article comments, people have questioned if the work is needed at all. They have questioned why the sidewalks and planters are included in the project. (This ties with Dino’s 400 block article because the south block of this project is one stretch of the 400 block, and the “final design” for that block could impact that part of this street construction project.) Someone commented about Third Street being so bad that you can use it to knock the frozen slush blocks off your car.

Being someone who doesn’t find myself downtown often, I didn’t remember what the problems with the sidewalks were, or what the planters even looked like. I drive a truck with a pretty stiff suspension. I get thrown around on 17th Avenue, but never Third Street. So, I took a walk downtown on Friday and took some pictures.

Third Street is in bad shape. Some of the worst areas are near intersections where manhole covers and storm water drains are. The sidewalks are in excellent shape, much better, in fact, than some of sidewalks I plow where if I am not paying attention, the blade on the tractor will hit the uneven surface and nearly throw me off. The planters are snow covered but are out of place with the great sidewalks. They are basically wood, made with 6×6 landscaping lumber, and are the things you would find used around a country home, not a city’s downtown with mostly stone construction.

While taking my walk, I stopped in the Main Street office and had a very brief discussion with Leah. I learned that the question isn’t if Third Street needs to be done, just does it have to be done in 2009, or can it be delayed one year, to 2010?

My thoughts: Yes it can. Although the street is in bad shape, for one more year, temporary patches can hold things together. Let us not forget the speeds that are driven on this street. The speed limit is 25, but I seldom do much more than 15, constantly stopping as people are pulling into and out of parking stalls. (As a matter of fact, a 15 mph speed limit on Third may not be a bad idea.) The sidewalks are just fine. No matter which year the street project is done, the sidewalks don’t need to be a part of it. However the planters have to go. With cosmetic fixes, they could make it one more year, but they do really look like crap.

Now as far as the improvements to the 400 Block, that is a whole other discussion, one that is far from being resolved. Maybe delaying the Third Street project one year will allow us to finally reach a consensus that, if we can’t all be happy with, we at least all can live with.

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4 Responses

  1. ataraxia

    11:22 am on February 10th

    I don’t go downtown because everything there is overpriced, so I don’t understand this notion that this section of the city is so much more valuable and deserves more attention and resources than any other part.

    Far more people attend events at Marathon Park than at the 400 Block. There is more commerce on the West Side, centered around Stewart Avenue, than shop downtown.

    I think the downown is totally overrated and you have a bunch of whiney loudmouths with their hand out.


  2. Matthew M

    12:34 pm on February 10th

    Ataraxia – you don’t understand how that part of the city is more valuable?
    Perhaps it is more valuable because it has higher property values, or perhaps it’s value comes from it’s efficient use of space.
    Look at the new office tower downtown, it pays almost $500,000 in property taxes, yet as far as needing city services, it only has a few hundred feet of sidewalk and street frontage that need city services such as street repair, snowplowing, and police patrol. Contrast that to Stewart Ave where it takes a lot more tax revenue to provide the same quality of service to an area that pays a comparable tax amount.

    I wonder if the city has a breakdown by districts of the property taxes and other incomes that are collected from the various districts, and the expenditures that the city spends in that district. It would be interesting to see the breakdown for street repairs, police, snowplowing, park maintenance, and everything else.


  3. Lisa Shilts

    9:37 pm on February 15th

    John -

    I’m sorry to get off the subject, but may I ask where in Oklahoma your wife is from? I’m a transplant from there also, dragged here 22 years ago this week from Broken Arrow (near Tulsa), grew up in Midwest City/Tinker Air Force Base (near OKC). Just curious . . .


  4. John H. Fischer

    7:56 am on February 16th

    She was raised in eastern OK and her parents still live about a half hour south west of Joplin, MO. However, when she moved here, she left Alva, OK, which is at the base of the pan handle in Western OK.


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