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	<title>Comments on: Election Signs Forbidden in Commercial Zones? Really?</title>
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		<title>By: LDM</title>
		<link>http://citizenwausau.com/blog/2012/08/07/election-signs-forbidden-in-commercial-zones-really/comment-page-1/#comment-106100</link>
		<dc:creator>LDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that you&#039;d have an argument under Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission:

&quot; If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for simply engaging in political speech.&quot;

The Constitution trumps local &amp; state laws.  Political signs are a form of written speech and the ruling clearly states that the corporations should not have their political speech curtailed by the government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that you&#8217;d have an argument under Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission:</p>
<p>&#8221; If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for simply engaging in political speech.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Constitution trumps local &amp; state laws.  Political signs are a form of written speech and the ruling clearly states that the corporations should not have their political speech curtailed by the government.</p>
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		<title>By: John H. Fischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John H. Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last nights Wausau Public Health and Safety Committee meeting, there was discussion of the possible need for signage around the 400 Block because of issues with open intoxicants.

How does that relate to this issue???

The Mayor spoke against signage as he is concerned about &quot;sign polution&quot;.  As evidence of a growing sign polution problem, he commented on the large number of poltical signs on business properties which he stated were in violation of city ordinances.

(Hoping that comment shows up in the minutes in case he decides to run again for Mayor - as last time he had no problem with signs on business properties then)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last nights Wausau Public Health and Safety Committee meeting, there was discussion of the possible need for signage around the 400 Block because of issues with open intoxicants.</p>
<p>How does that relate to this issue???</p>
<p>The Mayor spoke against signage as he is concerned about &#8220;sign polution&#8221;.  As evidence of a growing sign polution problem, he commented on the large number of poltical signs on business properties which he stated were in violation of city ordinances.</p>
<p>(Hoping that comment shows up in the minutes in case he decides to run again for Mayor &#8211; as last time he had no problem with signs on business properties then)</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The city never took issue with the giant &quot;Re-Elect Mayor Tipple&quot; banner hanging from the Wausau Area Events Building for a couple weeks. There was no way they didn&#039;t see that sign.

After I saw that banner on a tax funded office I was expecting a Tipple campaign mailer in my water and tax bill as well. He already campaigns for free in the city newsletter that I have to pay for. 

It&#039;s obvious why anything on Hadley&#039;s lot is focused on by City Hall. I think you got hit by the flak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city never took issue with the giant &#8220;Re-Elect Mayor Tipple&#8221; banner hanging from the Wausau Area Events Building for a couple weeks. There was no way they didn&#8217;t see that sign.</p>
<p>After I saw that banner on a tax funded office I was expecting a Tipple campaign mailer in my water and tax bill as well. He already campaigns for free in the city newsletter that I have to pay for. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious why anything on Hadley&#8217;s lot is focused on by City Hall. I think you got hit by the flak.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While there are always exceptions, you will almost always be better off continuing to try to work with a news media outlet -- even one that you find troublesome -- than to freeze them out. Sources tend to be a lot more concerned with nuances than most viewers or readers. &quot;Say anything you want, but spell my name right,&quot; is pretty good advice, in the big picture.  Second piece of free (and worth every cent) advice: you will almost always be better off pressing forward to the next encounter with the media than to think much about the last one. I got what you were saying in that interview and I&#039;m guessing a lot of other people did, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there are always exceptions, you will almost always be better off continuing to try to work with a news media outlet &#8212; even one that you find troublesome &#8212; than to freeze them out. Sources tend to be a lot more concerned with nuances than most viewers or readers. &#8220;Say anything you want, but spell my name right,&#8221; is pretty good advice, in the big picture.  Second piece of free (and worth every cent) advice: you will almost always be better off pressing forward to the next encounter with the media than to think much about the last one. I got what you were saying in that interview and I&#8217;m guessing a lot of other people did, too.</p>
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		<title>By: liber8r</title>
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		<dc:creator>liber8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least they are calling first, which they didn&#039;t do when they removed and destroyed my sign on River Drive.
Maas for Assembly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they are calling first, which they didn&#8217;t do when they removed and destroyed my sign on River Drive.<br />
Maas for Assembly</p>
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		<title>By: John H. Fischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John H. Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I would like to thank WAOW TV-9 for picking up this story, I am thinking that is the last time I am going to do an interview with that particular news outfit.

Just some things I want to clarify.

- I was not told about the signs being a violation of city code last week, that happened this week.

- The land in question is not MY land, it is owned by the company I work for.  I was speaking on behalf of the company.

- The article expressed this issue in a much more confrontational &quot;me vs the city&quot; manner than this entire situation was.  Bill Hebert of the inspections department called me.  We know each other because we work on the Housing Task Force together.  It was a civil conversation.  Basically I said I would need to see the law in question before I complied with it, and he told me where to find it.  We even discussed how I understood he was just doing his job of following up on a complaint and how much I did not envy his job of trying to enforce this ordinance.

- I am not this &quot;take a stand against city hall activist&quot; on this particular issue that the article portrays me to be.  The city asked me to do something, they showed me the city law that applies... and instead of blindly complying, I blogged about it wondering out loud if there was a federal law that trumped the city law.

The last time I did an interview with Channel 9 was when the Housing Task Force&#039;s Rent Abatement Ordiance was before the city council.  Committee Chair Lisa Rasmussen and myself did the rounds promoting this new ordiance as one more tool to help fight housing blight.  All media outlets we talked to reported the news, but Channel 9 apparantly wanted to make it more of a sensaional story, so they took a statement of mine out of context to imply that landlords could use the new abatement code to jack up rents and kick poor tenants out. (They left out my comment that such retalitiory behavior would violate state law).

Other news outlets who have used me as a source for stories (Chanel 7, the Wausau Daily Herald, City Pages, AM 550), have not tried to sensationalize things, and have simply reported on the story.  So therefore, I will still respond to their calls for comment.  But, I think I am going to let Channel 9 go to find other people and issues to over-react to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I would like to thank WAOW TV-9 for picking up this story, I am thinking that is the last time I am going to do an interview with that particular news outfit.</p>
<p>Just some things I want to clarify.</p>
<p>- I was not told about the signs being a violation of city code last week, that happened this week.</p>
<p>- The land in question is not MY land, it is owned by the company I work for.  I was speaking on behalf of the company.</p>
<p>- The article expressed this issue in a much more confrontational &#8220;me vs the city&#8221; manner than this entire situation was.  Bill Hebert of the inspections department called me.  We know each other because we work on the Housing Task Force together.  It was a civil conversation.  Basically I said I would need to see the law in question before I complied with it, and he told me where to find it.  We even discussed how I understood he was just doing his job of following up on a complaint and how much I did not envy his job of trying to enforce this ordinance.</p>
<p>- I am not this &#8220;take a stand against city hall activist&#8221; on this particular issue that the article portrays me to be.  The city asked me to do something, they showed me the city law that applies&#8230; and instead of blindly complying, I blogged about it wondering out loud if there was a federal law that trumped the city law.</p>
<p>The last time I did an interview with Channel 9 was when the Housing Task Force&#8217;s Rent Abatement Ordiance was before the city council.  Committee Chair Lisa Rasmussen and myself did the rounds promoting this new ordiance as one more tool to help fight housing blight.  All media outlets we talked to reported the news, but Channel 9 apparantly wanted to make it more of a sensaional story, so they took a statement of mine out of context to imply that landlords could use the new abatement code to jack up rents and kick poor tenants out. (They left out my comment that such retalitiory behavior would violate state law).</p>
<p>Other news outlets who have used me as a source for stories (Chanel 7, the Wausau Daily Herald, City Pages, AM 550), have not tried to sensationalize things, and have simply reported on the story.  So therefore, I will still respond to their calls for comment.  But, I think I am going to let Channel 9 go to find other people and issues to over-react to.</p>
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		<title>By: ThisIS news</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThisIS news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Fischer, you seem to be a pretty good local businessman from what I&#039;ve read.  By now you should have realized that speaking out against the powerful in city hall would eventually result in some payback.
They had to get pretty obscure to find something to pick on you about, but it seems they finally found something.
The fact that they had to dig so deep shows you are doing things right.
City hall won&#039;t be happy until they run every single good home and  business owner out of town. All that will be left is city owned rental homes and business pals with their hands perpetually in the tax coffers.
That&#039;s their dream for the future of Wausau.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Fischer, you seem to be a pretty good local businessman from what I&#8217;ve read.  By now you should have realized that speaking out against the powerful in city hall would eventually result in some payback.<br />
They had to get pretty obscure to find something to pick on you about, but it seems they finally found something.<br />
The fact that they had to dig so deep shows you are doing things right.<br />
City hall won&#8217;t be happy until they run every single good home and  business owner out of town. All that will be left is city owned rental homes and business pals with their hands perpetually in the tax coffers.<br />
That&#8217;s their dream for the future of Wausau.</p>
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